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		<title>Comment on Need Help with Kodak Photo CD .pcd Images by Buck Jeppson</title>
		<link>http://halpccldp.wordpress.com/2007/09/30/need-help-with-kodak-photo-cd-pcd-images/#comment-2712</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck Jeppson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried Irfanview, which I love. But the 4MB PCD files converted to 76K TIF files that are so lo-res they are not usable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried Irfanview, which I love. But the 4MB PCD files converted to 76K TIF files that are so lo-res they are not usable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Any Suggestions on Scanning Slides . . . How and Who? by Jean</title>
		<link>http://halpccldp.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/any-suggestions-on-scanning-slides-how-and-who/#comment-2711</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.scantodigital.com did a great job on my old slides and pictures from the 70&#039;s - present.  They were very reasonable and had a quick turnaround.  Good company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.scantodigital.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.scantodigital.com</a> did a great job on my old slides and pictures from the 70&#8217;s &#8211; present.  They were very reasonable and had a quick turnaround.  Good company.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Need Help with Kodak Photo CD .pcd Images by Spartanicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spartanicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....good old batch conversion in Irfanview converted the pcd files to jpgs across my samba share in seconds (I didn&#039;t even bother to copy the files pcd files locally).  Kudos as always to Irfan Skiljan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.good old batch conversion in Irfanview converted the pcd files to jpgs across my samba share in seconds (I didn&#8217;t even bother to copy the files pcd files locally).  Kudos as always to Irfan Skiljan.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Need Help with Kodak Photo CD .pcd Images by Spartanicus</title>
		<link>http://halpccldp.wordpress.com/2007/09/30/need-help-with-kodak-photo-cd-pcd-images/#comment-2504</link>
		<dc:creator>Spartanicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So - solved it with Ubuntu.  I copied the PhotoCD contents onto my Ubuntu machine and shared the files with WindowsXP using Samba. Now they open happily in Irfanview (though not in Photoshop CS3 - I&#039;ll have to convert them).

While this approach is unlikely to help many, it may help some. I&#039;m fairly certain were I to burn a CD or copy the images to a thumb drive from my Ubuntu machine (can&#039;t do the latter - no USB on that old machine!) that I&#039;d be able to carry the files to my WinXP box and all would go well.

Go Ubuntu! This is the third time in as many months Ubuntu has helped me regain old files from other systems (it even opened an ancient Macintosh Word doc from 1998).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8211; solved it with Ubuntu.  I copied the PhotoCD contents onto my Ubuntu machine and shared the files with WindowsXP using Samba. Now they open happily in Irfanview (though not in Photoshop CS3 &#8211; I&#8217;ll have to convert them).</p>
<p>While this approach is unlikely to help many, it may help some. I&#8217;m fairly certain were I to burn a CD or copy the images to a thumb drive from my Ubuntu machine (can&#8217;t do the latter &#8211; no USB on that old machine!) that I&#8217;d be able to carry the files to my WinXP box and all would go well.</p>
<p>Go Ubuntu! This is the third time in as many months Ubuntu has helped me regain old files from other systems (it even opened an ancient Macintosh Word doc from 1998).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Need Help with Kodak Photo CD .pcd Images by Spartanicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spartanicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same issue - Kodak Photo CDs will not display anything on my Windows XP.  I&#039;m a happy user of Photoshop CS3 and Irfanview, but I can&#039;t do anything with the images if my machine can&#039;t read them.

When I pull the CD up on my Ubuntu box, I can see the files just fine - I&#039;ve copied them there, but Gimp doesn&#039;t open them.  (Guess I&#039;ll have to try downloading them onto Ubuntu and copy them over to Windows.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same issue &#8211; Kodak Photo CDs will not display anything on my Windows XP.  I&#8217;m a happy user of Photoshop CS3 and Irfanview, but I can&#8217;t do anything with the images if my machine can&#8217;t read them.</p>
<p>When I pull the CD up on my Ubuntu box, I can see the files just fine &#8211; I&#8217;ve copied them there, but Gimp doesn&#8217;t open them.  (Guess I&#8217;ll have to try downloading them onto Ubuntu and copy them over to Windows.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Need Help with Kodak Photo CD .pcd Images by John Griffiths</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Griffiths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some pictures on CD that was done by kodak Photo CD in the 90&#039;s and now I can not view these cd&#039;s on my computer. Can some tell mew a free programe that I can download to view these CD&#039;s

Thank you.

John Griffiths</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some pictures on CD that was done by kodak Photo CD in the 90&#8217;s and now I can not view these cd&#8217;s on my computer. Can some tell mew a free programe that I can download to view these CD&#8217;s</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>John Griffiths</p>
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		<title>Comment on Forwarding Emails Containing Embedded Pictures by Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another way if you are the person doing the forward of a message where you can see everything OK is to do a &quot;Redirect&quot; instead of &quot;Forward&quot;.  In that case the original MIME HTML (.mht) format is preserved exactly as received.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another way if you are the person doing the forward of a message where you can see everything OK is to do a &#8220;Redirect&#8221; instead of &#8220;Forward&#8221;.  In that case the original MIME HTML (.mht) format is preserved exactly as received.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Need Help Changing Black-and-White Photos to Color by James Mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I don&#039;t know of any programs to convert black and white photos to color. I didn&#039;t even know you could convert them. It doesn&#039;t exactly make any sense to me. 

This something I am just going to have to try before believing it really works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I don&#8217;t know of any programs to convert black and white photos to color. I didn&#8217;t even know you could convert them. It doesn&#8217;t exactly make any sense to me. </p>
<p>This something I am just going to have to try before believing it really works.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Correction &amp; Expansion on a Discussion from the Saturday 6/21 Meeting by Picturation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Picturation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl, I wasn&#039;t aware of your reply until just now.  

I&#039;m not entirely sure I understand your questions but if I do then . . .

Let&#039;s assume a modern consumer grade scanner can really produce a 4800 ppi optical scan.  A color print does not have enough image definition to take advantage of this resolution.  Scanning color prints at more than 300 ppi is just making fuzzy images bigger and fuzzier.  Scanning color prints at 600, 1000 or 4800 ppi doesn&#039;t get any more image detail/data than scanning them at 300 ppi.  It just makes a bigger file.

To illustrate this for yourself, take one of the sharpest negatives you have and print it the size of a postage stamp, and print it 11x14.  Then, scan the stamp size print at 4800 dpi and print it 11x14.  The enlargement of the stamp size print will be MUCH fuzzier than the original 11x14 print from the negative, even though it was made from the same negative.  This is because the print cannot reproduce the image data available in the negative.  The upper limit of the paper&#039;s ability to hold image clarity/data is about 300 ppi.  And these are high quality prints.  Scanning drugstore prints at more than 200 ppi is probably a waste of disk space too.

My article is about scanning color prints, not real objects.  A real object, such as a leaf, scanned at higher and higher resolutions continues to produce greater and greater detail, because that detail is really there. 

To answer your question, &#039;Did I buy a new scanner for the wrong reasons?&quot;  If it was a good quality scanner and you use for it to scan color prints, then answer is probably yes.  The 300 ppi scanner produced all the useful data you will get from your color prints.  If you plan to scan leaves, maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl, I wasn&#8217;t aware of your reply until just now.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not entirely sure I understand your questions but if I do then . . .</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s assume a modern consumer grade scanner can really produce a 4800 ppi optical scan.  A color print does not have enough image definition to take advantage of this resolution.  Scanning color prints at more than 300 ppi is just making fuzzy images bigger and fuzzier.  Scanning color prints at 600, 1000 or 4800 ppi doesn&#8217;t get any more image detail/data than scanning them at 300 ppi.  It just makes a bigger file.</p>
<p>To illustrate this for yourself, take one of the sharpest negatives you have and print it the size of a postage stamp, and print it 11&#215;14.  Then, scan the stamp size print at 4800 dpi and print it 11&#215;14.  The enlargement of the stamp size print will be MUCH fuzzier than the original 11&#215;14 print from the negative, even though it was made from the same negative.  This is because the print cannot reproduce the image data available in the negative.  The upper limit of the paper&#8217;s ability to hold image clarity/data is about 300 ppi.  And these are high quality prints.  Scanning drugstore prints at more than 200 ppi is probably a waste of disk space too.</p>
<p>My article is about scanning color prints, not real objects.  A real object, such as a leaf, scanned at higher and higher resolutions continues to produce greater and greater detail, because that detail is really there. </p>
<p>To answer your question, &#8216;Did I buy a new scanner for the wrong reasons?&#8221;  If it was a good quality scanner and you use for it to scan color prints, then answer is probably yes.  The 300 ppi scanner produced all the useful data you will get from your color prints.  If you plan to scan leaves, maybe not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Correction &amp; Expansion on a Discussion from the Saturday 6/21 Meeting by Carl Farley</title>
		<link>http://halpccldp.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/correction-expansion-on-a-discussion-at-saturday-621-meeting/#comment-2219</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Farley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, could you be into deep doo-doo here? I don&#039;t know... 

My one, cut-to-the-chase question is - Why can modern consumer scanners go up to at least 4800 ppi (and, commercial drum scanners a lot more) if all they&#039;re producing is an image file composed of (mostly) fake pixels? Is this mentioned in their literature or user guides? Maybe they do this in a special way.

For example, how would I scan a postage stamp or a fancy engraving or a $100.00 bill if I&#039;m putting out fake pixels? On the other hand, fake money, fake pixels. Makes sense.

I might be missing something really important here. Did I purchase a nice, new All-In-One printer a year ago for the wrong reasons? It replaced a 15-yr old (max) 300 ppi scanner. Maybe I should have kept it &#039;cause that&#039;s all I need (coupled with my Adobe Photoshop (up-sampling) software?

I wonder what Bob DuVernay at HAL-PC HQ would say to all this...? 

At any rate, I appreciate those of you who know a lot about these subjects for pitching in and giving us your opinion. We&#039;re all the better for it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, could you be into deep doo-doo here? I don&#8217;t know&#8230; </p>
<p>My one, cut-to-the-chase question is &#8211; Why can modern consumer scanners go up to at least 4800 ppi (and, commercial drum scanners a lot more) if all they&#8217;re producing is an image file composed of (mostly) fake pixels? Is this mentioned in their literature or user guides? Maybe they do this in a special way.</p>
<p>For example, how would I scan a postage stamp or a fancy engraving or a $100.00 bill if I&#8217;m putting out fake pixels? On the other hand, fake money, fake pixels. Makes sense.</p>
<p>I might be missing something really important here. Did I purchase a nice, new All-In-One printer a year ago for the wrong reasons? It replaced a 15-yr old (max) 300 ppi scanner. Maybe I should have kept it &#8217;cause that&#8217;s all I need (coupled with my Adobe Photoshop (up-sampling) software?</p>
<p>I wonder what Bob DuVernay at HAL-PC HQ would say to all this&#8230;? </p>
<p>At any rate, I appreciate those of you who know a lot about these subjects for pitching in and giving us your opinion. We&#8217;re all the better for it&#8230;</p>
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